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Quote from: PANK! on August 18, 2011, 12:58:16 PM

Quote from: Waco Kid on August 18, 2011, 12:52:27 PM
Perusing through the comments;

QuoteBest GM Since Bill Veeck Sr.?

   Jim Hendry has been the most successful Cubs general manager in 70 years — because since the 1930s, no other Cubs GM had brought the team to as many postseason appearances as he has (three).

Nice criteria. An 88-win division, and 2 division titles when Tribune and McDonough allowed him to spend freely. In 6 short years (or about 1/2 the time that Hendry has spent with the organization) , Dallas Green constructed 2 legitimate division winners—the first one through trades (Sutcliffe, Sandberg, Dernier, Matthews, Eckersley et.al;..really the whole damn team) and the second one through the farm (Maddux, Grace, Girardi, Jerome Walton, Dwight Smith, Damon Berryhil, not to mention trading a future 500 HR hitting, and 250 winning pitcher in Rafael Palmeiro and Jamie Moyer—also homegriown— to augment these youngsters). Green's player development puts Hendry's to shame, and to ignore Green's regime while tripping over yourself to praise Hendry's is shameful

Apologies in advance for being so combative, but that nonsense is so dumb (and so transparently equivocal, par for the course, I guess) that it glows in the dark. Jim Hendry is a bumbling buffoon who has stumbled into whatever success he's accidentally enjoyed and has produced so few homegrown players—even though he's been in player development for a major market franchise for over a decade— that you ought to be embarassed by any praise you throw his way. He's hardly been better than Ed Lynch, and the insult to Dallas Green is so steeped in wilfull and deceitful ignorance as to provide a disservice to your readers, even though you're just a blogger. My brain hurts.

Thanks for the plug.  Also, I blame BH for compelling me to visit that wasteland for the first time in months and being further compelled to leave that comment.

Quote from: Al YellonHowever, it is true that no Cubs GM produced as many postseason appearances as Hendry since the 1930s. Green wasn't GM in 1989, although you are also correct that the players his system produced helped win that title.

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 18, 2011, 03:03:51 PM
Maybe we can agree that Jim Hendry is the best GM who Al has ever met since he started "writing" and started sucking up to for access.

QuoteRecently, Carlos Peña, who played in the World Series for the 2008 AL champion Rays, said that the Cubs need a culture change:

"What is Latin American culture?" Peña said. "What is the European culture? Basically, it's a way of being.

"When I say culture of the team, (it's) the way we interact with each other, the way we react to things, the way we view ourselves, the way we view our season. (So) what's our identity?

"It's just viewing ourselves in a different light, wearing the uniform with pride, just all those personal things that (should be) ingrained in us."

And what was Mike Quade's response to that? A nervous and silly joke:

Quade, when asked about Carlos Peña's comment that the Cubs need a "cultural change" in the clubhouse: "The culture? Does that mean adding an Australian, or does that mean getting a Chinese player? I don't know."

Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 18, 2011, 06:48:21 PM
I think Al has stumbled onto the reason why Pena wasn't traded.

QuoteRecently, Carlos Peña, who played in the World Series for the 2008 AL champion Rays, said that the Cubs need a culture change:

"What is Latin American culture?" Peña said. "What is the European culture? Basically, it's a way of being.

"When I say culture of the team, (it's) the way we interact with each other, the way we react to things, the way we view ourselves, the way we view our season. (So) what's our identity?

"It's just viewing ourselves in a different light, wearing the uniform with pride, just all those personal things that (should be) ingrained in us."

And what was Mike Quade's response to that? A nervous and silly joke:

Quade, when asked about Carlos Peña's comment that the Cubs need a "cultural change" in the clubhouse: "The culture? Does that mean adding an Australian, or does that mean getting a Chinese player? I don't know."

Quote from: BH on August 19, 2011, 09:28:26 AM
Signs that point to Hendry staying.

Another case for Fleita (because he found starlin castro), Wilkens, both of which may leave if Hendry leaves.
Also, the new GM might hire scouts that don't like who we just drafted. Makes sense.
Go get 'em Jimbo.

Quote from: Slaky on August 19, 2011, 10:08:59 AM

Quote from: BH on August 19, 2011, 09:28:26 AM
Signs that point to Hendry staying.

Another case for Fleita (because he found starlin castro), Wilkens, both of which may leave if Hendry leaves.
Also, the new GM might hire scouts that don't like who we just drafted. Makes sense.
Go get 'em Jimbo.

I believe finding one player with good potential (that has not been reached and may never be reached, for all we know) is a great reason for a lifetime extension. Make it hai.

Nevermind - the Orange One says Hendry is FIRED.


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Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 19, 2011, 10:15:12 AM

Quote from: Slaky on August 19, 2011, 10:08:59 AM

Quote from: BH on August 19, 2011, 09:28:26 AM
Signs that point to Hendry staying.

Another case for Fleita (because he found starlin castro), Wilkens, both of which may leave if Hendry leaves.
Also, the new GM might hire scouts that don't like who we just drafted. Makes sense.
Go get 'em Jimbo.

I believe finding one player with good potential (that has not been reached and may never be reached, for all we know) is a great reason for a lifetime extension. Make it hai.

Nevermind - the Orange One says Hendry is FIRED.


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Quote from: PANK! on August 19, 2011, 10:22:25 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 19, 2011, 10:15:12 AM

Quote from: Slaky on August 19, 2011, 10:08:59 AM

Quote from: BH on August 19, 2011, 09:28:26 AM
Signs that point to Hendry staying.

Another case for Fleita (because he found starlin castro), Wilkens, both of which may leave if Hendry leaves.
Also, the new GM might hire scouts that don't like who we just drafted. Makes sense.
Go get 'em Jimbo.

I believe finding one player with good potential (that has not been reached and may never be reached, for all we know) is a great reason for a lifetime extension. Make it hai.

Nevermind - the Orange One says Hendry is FIRED.


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Looks like I'll have to cast my "stalking net" and corner Kaplan today before I get too excited.

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 19, 2011, 10:53:07 AM
So, according to Yeti's transcript of the presser, Hendry was told he was being fired before the trade deadline?

Fuck this team.

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 19, 2011, 10:53:07 AM
So, according to Yeti's transcript of the presser, Hendry was told he was being fired before the trade deadline?

Fuck this team.