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Quote from: SKO on June 09, 2016, 03:19:16 PM
They also signed Justin Morneau and then put him on the DL, hoping he can come back from years of his brain being turned into mush and hit well after they've dropped completely out of contention. This is their equivalent to the Phil Nevin trade.

Quote from: SKO on June 10, 2016, 09:23:20 AM
They're DFA'ing Rollins and calling up Anderson. I don't think Anderson will really help much (guys that strike out 7 times for every walk in AAA but also don't hit for any power (.105 ISO) always do well in the majors, right?) but I give Rick Hahn credit for trying to stem the tide since it doesn't seem like Jerry will loosen the purse strings.

Quote from: Yeti on June 10, 2016, 09:25:07 AM

Quote from: SKO on June 10, 2016, 09:23:20 AM
They're DFA'ing Rollins and calling up Anderson. I don't think Anderson will really help much (guys that strike out 7 times for every walk in AAA but also don't hit for any power (.105 ISO) always do well in the majors, right?) but I give Rick Hahn credit for trying to stem the tide since it doesn't seem like Jerry will loosen the purse strings.

So, let's say Jerry "loosens the purse strings", what does that get them right now?

Quote from: Yeti on June 10, 2016, 09:25:07 AM

Quote from: SKO on June 10, 2016, 09:23:20 AM
They're DFA'ing Rollins and calling up Anderson. I don't think Anderson will really help much (guys that strike out 7 times for every walk in AAA but also don't hit for any power (.105 ISO) always do well in the majors, right?) but I give Rick Hahn credit for trying to stem the tide since it doesn't seem like Jerry will loosen the purse strings.

So, let's say Jerry "loosens the purse strings", what does that get them right now?

A 16th ranked payroll in 2016 for the 27th ranked team in attendance in 2015 doesn't sound like a cheap team

Quote from: SKO on June 10, 2016, 09:35:28 AM

Quote from: Yeti on June 10, 2016, 09:25:07 AM

Quote from: SKO on June 10, 2016, 09:23:20 AM
They're DFA'ing Rollins and calling up Anderson. I don't think Anderson will really help much (guys that strike out 7 times for every walk in AAA but also don't hit for any power (.105 ISO) always do well in the majors, right?) but I give Rick Hahn credit for trying to stem the tide since it doesn't seem like Jerry will loosen the purse strings.

So, let's say Jerry "loosens the purse strings", what does that get them right now?

A 16th ranked payroll in 2016 for the 27th ranked team in attendance in 2015 doesn't sound like a cheap team

If you don't think Jerry Reinsdorf could spend more money on their payroll, you're kidding yourself. The Sox were probably a .500 true talent team that had obvious holes at shortstop and center field and in the rotation with guys like Dexter Fowler, Ian Desmond, and mid tier pitchers like JA Happ or Rich Hill even available on the market, all available on deals that didn't go past their strict three year limit and all reasonably priced.

They went dumpster diving for Jimmy Rollins and Latos and Austin Jackson instead. The "low attendance" is kind of a self fulfilling prophecy when your team doesn't go out and get needed upgrades when they have publicly stated even they think they only have a three year window.

Quote from: PANK! on June 10, 2016, 09:52:43 AM

Quote from: SKO on June 10, 2016, 09:35:28 AM

Quote from: Yeti on June 10, 2016, 09:25:07 AM

Quote from: SKO on June 10, 2016, 09:23:20 AM
They're DFA'ing Rollins and calling up Anderson. I don't think Anderson will really help much (guys that strike out 7 times for every walk in AAA but also don't hit for any power (.105 ISO) always do well in the majors, right?) but I give Rick Hahn credit for trying to stem the tide since it doesn't seem like Jerry will loosen the purse strings.

So, let's say Jerry "loosens the purse strings", what does that get them right now?

A 16th ranked payroll in 2016 for the 27th ranked team in attendance in 2015 doesn't sound like a cheap team

If you don't think Jerry Reinsdorf could spend more money on their payroll, you're kidding yourself. The Sox were probably a .500 true talent team that had obvious holes at shortstop and center field and in the rotation with guys like Dexter Fowler, Ian Desmond, and mid tier pitchers like JA Happ or Rich Hill even available on the market, all available on deals that didn't go past their strict three year limit and all reasonably priced.

They went dumpster diving for Jimmy Rollins and Latos and Austin Jackson instead. The "low attendance" is kind of a self fulfilling prophecy when your team doesn't go out and get needed upgrades when they have publicly stated even they think they only have a three year window.

So much this, so much so that I'm copying this and will drop it on some of my idiot Sox friends, thanks!

Quote from: SKO on June 10, 2016, 09:35:28 AM

Quote from: Yeti on June 10, 2016, 09:25:07 AM

Quote from: SKO on June 10, 2016, 09:23:20 AM
They're DFA'ing Rollins and calling up Anderson. I don't think Anderson will really help much (guys that strike out 7 times for every walk in AAA but also don't hit for any power (.105 ISO) always do well in the majors, right?) but I give Rick Hahn credit for trying to stem the tide since it doesn't seem like Jerry will loosen the purse strings.

So, let's say Jerry "loosens the purse strings", what does that get them right now?

A 16th ranked payroll in 2016 for the 27th ranked team in attendance in 2015 doesn't sound like a cheap team

If you don't think Jerry Reinsdorf could spend more money on their payroll, you're kidding yourself. The Sox were probably a .500 true talent team that had obvious holes at shortstop and center field and in the rotation with guys like Dexter Fowler, Ian Desmond, and mid tier pitchers like JA Happ or Rich Hill even available on the market, all available on deals that didn't go past their strict three year limit and all reasonably priced.

They went dumpster diving for Jimmy Rollins and Latos and Austin Jackson instead. The "low attendance" is kind of a self fulfilling prophecy when your team doesn't go out and get needed upgrades when they have publicly stated even they think they only have a three year window.

Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 10, 2016, 10:12:40 AM

Quote from: SKO on June 10, 2016, 09:35:28 AM

Quote from: Yeti on June 10, 2016, 09:25:07 AM

Quote from: SKO on June 10, 2016, 09:23:20 AM
They're DFA'ing Rollins and calling up Anderson. I don't think Anderson will really help much (guys that strike out 7 times for every walk in AAA but also don't hit for any power (.105 ISO) always do well in the majors, right?) but I give Rick Hahn credit for trying to stem the tide since it doesn't seem like Jerry will loosen the purse strings.

So, let's say Jerry "loosens the purse strings", what does that get them right now?

A 16th ranked payroll in 2016 for the 27th ranked team in attendance in 2015 doesn't sound like a cheap team

If you don't think Jerry Reinsdorf could spend more money on their payroll, you're kidding yourself. The Sox were probably a .500 true talent team that had obvious holes at shortstop and center field and in the rotation with guys like Dexter Fowler, Ian Desmond, and mid tier pitchers like JA Happ or Rich Hill even available on the market, all available on deals that didn't go past their strict three year limit and all reasonably priced.

They went dumpster diving for Jimmy Rollins and Latos and Austin Jackson instead. The "low attendance" is kind of a self fulfilling prophecy when your team doesn't go out and get needed upgrades when they have publicly stated even they think they only have a three year window.

And there's another baseball team in the same market that is pretty good. It's hard to draw casual fans when the Cubs are everywhere all the time.

Quote from: Brownie on June 10, 2016, 04:04:24 PM
Reinsdorf doesn't know whether he's in or out. He could have decided to move Abreu for some decent return in the offseason and have Hahn/Williams shop any player under 27, before waiting to hold someone up for Sale at the deadline. Instead he and Kenny convinced themselves that they could compete in that division and do it on the cheap. I hope Reinsdorf lives to 100 and takes every year like it might be his last one on earth while keeping Kenny Williams employed to spend money idiotically.

The Montreal Chaussettes Blanches will have a nice ring to it, circa 2031.

Quote from: SKO on June 10, 2016, 10:15:26 AM

Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 10, 2016, 10:12:40 AM

Quote from: SKO on June 10, 2016, 09:35:28 AM

Quote from: Yeti on June 10, 2016, 09:25:07 AM

Quote from: SKO on June 10, 2016, 09:23:20 AM
They're DFA'ing Rollins and calling up Anderson. I don't think Anderson will really help much (guys that strike out 7 times for every walk in AAA but also don't hit for any power (.105 ISO) always do well in the majors, right?) but I give Rick Hahn credit for trying to stem the tide since it doesn't seem like Jerry will loosen the purse strings.

So, let's say Jerry "loosens the purse strings", what does that get them right now?

A 16th ranked payroll in 2016 for the 27th ranked team in attendance in 2015 doesn't sound like a cheap team

If you don't think Jerry Reinsdorf could spend more money on their payroll, you're kidding yourself. The Sox were probably a .500 true talent team that had obvious holes at shortstop and center field and in the rotation with guys like Dexter Fowler, Ian Desmond, and mid tier pitchers like JA Happ or Rich Hill even available on the market, all available on deals that didn't go past their strict three year limit and all reasonably priced.

They went dumpster diving for Jimmy Rollins and Latos and Austin Jackson instead. The "low attendance" is kind of a self fulfilling prophecy when your team doesn't go out and get needed upgrades when they have publicly stated even they think they only have a three year window.

And there's another baseball team in the same market that is pretty good. It's hard to draw casual fans when the Cubs are everywhere all the time.

Right, you don't get to cry small market because you've intentionally made yourself the little sibling by not even trying to outbid the Cubs for Fowler, a guy you desperately needed that they basically signed as an afterthought. Your fans are right to tell you to fuck off.

Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 10, 2016, 04:41:23 PM

Quote from: SKO on June 10, 2016, 10:15:26 AM

Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 10, 2016, 10:12:40 AM

Quote from: SKO on June 10, 2016, 09:35:28 AM

Quote from: Yeti on June 10, 2016, 09:25:07 AM

Quote from: SKO on June 10, 2016, 09:23:20 AM
They're DFA'ing Rollins and calling up Anderson. I don't think Anderson will really help much (guys that strike out 7 times for every walk in AAA but also don't hit for any power (.105 ISO) always do well in the majors, right?) but I give Rick Hahn credit for trying to stem the tide since it doesn't seem like Jerry will loosen the purse strings.

So, let's say Jerry "loosens the purse strings", what does that get them right now?

A 16th ranked payroll in 2016 for the 27th ranked team in attendance in 2015 doesn't sound like a cheap team

If you don't think Jerry Reinsdorf could spend more money on their payroll, you're kidding yourself. The Sox were probably a .500 true talent team that had obvious holes at shortstop and center field and in the rotation with guys like Dexter Fowler, Ian Desmond, and mid tier pitchers like JA Happ or Rich Hill even available on the market, all available on deals that didn't go past their strict three year limit and all reasonably priced.

They went dumpster diving for Jimmy Rollins and Latos and Austin Jackson instead. The "low attendance" is kind of a self fulfilling prophecy when your team doesn't go out and get needed upgrades when they have publicly stated even they think they only have a three year window.

And there's another baseball team in the same market that is pretty good. It's hard to draw casual fans when the Cubs are everywhere all the time.

Right, you don't get to cry small market because you've intentionally made yourself the little sibling by not even trying to outbid the Cubs for Fowler, a guy you desperately needed that they basically signed as an afterthought. Your fans are right to tell you to fuck off.

Seriously, have the Sox been any real competition for the summer sports entertainment dollar at any time in the last 50 years other than when Bill Veeck owned the team?

Quote from: Saul Goodman on July 12, 2016, 07:36:29 PM
lol

QuoteThe Bryant homer marred an otherwise good outing by Sale, though the White Sox apparently missed that key third pitch.

(The White Sox tweeted Sale's stat line minus the home run, but that tweet has since been deleted.)